http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/11/04/upcoming-change-to-playstation-3-and-psp-game-content-on-playstation-network/ thanks to Faga for mentioning this in chatbox. Looks like PSN is changing it's policy. This was announced in Japan webite. Now it's on the EU website. I'm sure NA is coming soon....
well that will suck for people that have more than 2 systems they use. i guess they are doing this to cut down on people sharing games.
I hope that doesn't affect Home. I have my account activated on multiple machine. I don't dowload a lot of games on multiple machine. Anymore information on this?
Only way it might effect Home is if you use the same id on more than two system and use the store. last i knew the system has to be active to use the store. Home content is linked to your id and not system, this is why home does a number of checks when loading up.
That is true although I have my main account resident on a number of machines. I wonder if I can run it off all of them or if I'm going to have issues with it.
I get the sense they are only talking your typical disc games and downloaded games. Not Home. Doesn't make sense that they would put any barriers to you spending in Home. I think this is to stop Game Sharing. Or at least reduce it. I'm sure game companies are putting pressure on Sony to stop it. And to put barriers to rentals and other ways people play a game that the game companies don't see a direct profit from.
Active systems will not effect disk base games, the active system is for store use and for DLC and game downloads, so with it being linked to the Store that will have an event on Home, meaning you might be unable to use the stores on systems no longer active. I guess only way to know is for someone to report if it works or not who falls into the more then two active systems book.
I'm surprised they didn't do this ages ago. "Gamesharing" (which is not what I would call it) is rampant on ps3 and the publishers have NOT been happy about it. The only thing that surprises me is that they're still allowing it on two machines. However, it's reasonable to think a normal family unit might have two machines. That, in my opinion, is genuine sharing and I'm glad they left it with two. I'm just surprised they were that generous. I'm also surprised they had the sense to realize, up front, that they could not apply this retroactively--it's not like Sony to keep their foot out of their mouth. Really, they should set it up so any machine on the same LAN/subnet as a machine that's licensed for the content can run it. That serves bigger family sizes without letting five families share one copy across five houses. If you allow for two licensed machines, that even lets you take one to a friend's party without ruining the fun back home. Sure, there are workarounds with VPNs and such that could make you appear to have two houses on the same LAN, but you can check network latency to verify something really is on the same LAN. Then there's the XBL method, which is to allow one licensed machine and one licensed user. Anyone logged into the licensed machine can run the software, and any machine at all can run the software if the licensed user is logged in. (Note that a user can only log in on one machine at a time.) This has its pluses and minuses vs. the PSN method. I don't think either method is quite there yet, but it's sure a lot better than PC-based licensing has been.
By the way, what releases on Nov. 18th? Whatever it is, you can be sure that its publisher is the one who finally put their foot down and said "We're not releasing anything else on PSN until you fix this ."
well the only problem i see with this is if people that have more than two systems. like if i had 3 systems i wouldn't pay for a game twice just to have it on all three or what if one of those systems ylod on me, that would cause even more problems. which i one have one right now but been thinking about getting another. so what would happen if i had 2 and one went down where i couldn't deactivate it and had to buy another? i know i wouldn't buy all the games i have again just cause the system went down but that is just me.
Crow: They did say they're going to introduce a web interface for deactivating devices. Also, you can activate any system, but you have to be willing to deactivate one of the existing systems if you already have two activated. I'm pretty certain you can activate and deactivate systems at will. It's just that you can only have two active at a time. So, if you have three systems at home, let's say one in the family room, one in the rec room, and one in the bedroom, you may need to move the activation from one of the other two if you're in the bedroom and it's not active. That's a quick process, as I recall, so it's not a big deal. However, if you're upset that you cannot run the software on three systems simultaneously, then that's just a matter of understanding that you're not intended to do that with the titles sold under the new license. You'll be buying a license for up to two systems at a time. If that license agreement doesn't appeal to you, don't buy PSN games after Nov. 18th. That's basically the only way you can protest if you don't agree with the terms on new purchases. The other option is to allow that times change and this is the new normal. After the 18th, to play on 3 or 4 systems, you'll need to purchase the title twice. My opinion, though, is that it's still a better deal than the single-system-at-a-time license you've traditionally gotten with a disc-based game. You'd need to buy 4 discs to play on 4 systems. It's double the upcoming PSN price.
Thats just it, times are changing, I mean I have 2 PS3's in my home, and I don't think I would use more then 2 anyways. Only time I would use the 2nd one, if I had company over and they wanted to play a multiplayer game with me online. PC has totality changed, for it, you have no choice but to buy several copies per system. I am cool with it, I mean if the game is that good, then why not? Like Uncharted 3.
oh it doesn't bother me that they are doing it ( mainly cause i one have one system lol ) that is just some of the things i could see that would cause some problems for others. i didn't know they was going a web interface for deactivating systems if some one needs to which is cool . also the idea about the deactivating one system like that is good to if it lets you download it to the 3rd system lol
You can look at how many you have activated, but you can't deactivate it yet. (only the number activated, doesn't specify which PS3 it is)
Yes, I imagine Sony has lost millions of dollars from people exploiting this feature for game sharing. That said, even if you have more than two PS3 it isn't an issue - all you have to do is activate the account you want to use on the PS3 you want to use - such that you could still have five or even a dozen PS3 with the same account on them, but only two can be activated at the same time. I seriously doubt anyone would ever need to use the same account on three PS3 at the same time. In a sense, people could still exploit this by contacting the account holder, and asking them to deactivate their account in order to activate the same account on their PS3 - and thus use their games... but this makes it less convenient to exploit the system as the account holder now must make sure they keep track of who they give their account info to and to make sure they deactivate the account when they are done playing - or else risk being locked out of their own games and content! Personally this is a good move as it doesn't really impact honest consumers, as they can easily activate and deactivate their own systems and thus could have the same account on dozens of PS3s if need be, but it makes it much harder for those exploiting the system to get free games.
